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Type "A" --is 2 tapered bearings with out a center spacer. you just tighten the nut to get a good feel / no play in the wheel. and insert a cotter key, to prevent the nut from loosening.
Type "B" -- is 2 tapered bearings with a precisely machined race spacer and a precisely machined bearing spacer. Generally the bearing spacer is slightly bigger-(longer) than the race spacer.
No need for 60 lbs on those. They would bind. Just use the "good" feel method.
Been in there for 20 years and still good. .
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Type "A" --is 2 tapered bearings with out a center spacer. you just tighten the nut to get a good feel / no play in the wheel. and insert a cotter key, to prevent the nut from loosening.
Type "B" -- is 2 tapered bearings with a precisely machined race spacer and a precisely machined bearing spacer. Generally the bearing spacer is slightly bigger-(longer) than the race spacer.
If everything is assembled correctly, no incorrect parts or damages, when you torque the nut to the correct spec. ,the longer bearing spacer will give a very slight end play to the wheel bearing.
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I replaced my rear wheel bearings with tapered bearing kit. When I torque castlenut to 60 ft lb, wheels are hard to spin. I did not drive,only rolled it a bit in garage; very hard to push. I thought I may have put on seal backwards. I originally put seal with flat end away opposite of bearing. I saw Haynes Manual says put seal with flat end towards tapered bearings, so I tried one wheel this way, and it still feels hard to spin when I start tightening. I'm certain races are in as far as they can go.
Any ideas of what I may doing wrong? or tips. thx
If you can't get to 60 lbs just torque it to as much as you can and repeat the ride.
Make sure the outer races are fully seated.
The flat side of the seals should face you when you install them.
Adjusting the bearing load will require you to make longer spacers, this is a pita imo unless you are a machinist with a lathe so try and work with what you have.
If in doubt, flat out. Colin Mc Rae MBE 1968-2007.
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I replaced my rear wheel bearings with tapered bearing kit. When I torque castlenut to 60 ft lb, wheels are hard to spin. I did not drive,only rolled it a bit in garage; very hard to push. I thought I may have put on seal backwards. I originally put seal with flat end away opposite of bearing. I saw Haynes Manual says put seal with flat end towards tapered bearings, so I tried one wheel this way, and it still feels hard to spin when I start tightening. I'm certain races are in as far as they can go.
Any ideas of what I may doing wrong? or tips. thx
I would make sure the outer races are installed all the way down to the seats.
I have experienced this problem before and I tightened the bearings to where I felt comfortable with them and drove it around the backroads for a few miles. As long as you install the split pins and keep your speeds down it will be fine for the test drive.
I then was able to re torque the nuts to 60lbs.
Shimming the bearings requires you to make a thicker spacer so it pushes the bearings farther apart and helps with the clearance but finding the length you want is the tricky part.
If in doubt, flat out. Colin Mc Rae MBE 1968-2007.
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So the nuts need to be torqued to 60 ft lb right? this is what some of the guys on youtube said. classic mini diy, and steveston moco.
I am able to get the split pin in, with wheels moving smoothly but it's not near tight enough.
also you guys, know which way for certain the oil seal goes?
Alex, how would I go about using shims?
thx for helping me in these troubled times
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Therefore I would tighten the castle nut until there is barely perceptible play and no more.
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That's the method for a trailer without a centre distance spacer, and hopeless (and dangerous) for a Mini. How do you put the split pin through to lock the nut that holds the hub on ?
The bearing is designed to be torqued to the prescribed amount to ensure proper pre-load amongst other things.
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Did you use genuine Timken bearing kits or the el-cheapo knockoffs which are frankly rubbish ?
If you used repros then it doesn't surprise me that they are tight, as the outer races are often too thick or the stepped spacer on the inner race too small.
You can remedy the problem by shimming the bearing if you feel confident enough to do it.
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I replaced my rear wheel bearings with tapered bearing kit. When I torque castlenut to 60 ft lb, wheels are hard to spin. I did not drive,only rolled it a bit in garage; very hard to push. I thought I may have put on seal backwards. I originally put seal with flat end away opposite of bearing. I saw Haynes Manual says put seal with flat end towards tapered bearings, so I tried one wheel this way, and it still feels hard to spin when I start tightening. I'm certain races are in as far as they can go.
Any ideas of what I may doing wrong? or tips. thx