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If in doubt, flat out. Colin Mc Rae MBE 1968-2007.
Give a car more power and it goes faster on the straights,
make a car lighter and it's faster everywhere. Colin Chapman.
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When you open the throttle, vacuum is applied to the dashpot, lifting the damper and opening the throat of the carb at the bridge. This allows more air to pass through. It also pulls the needle out of the jet to admit more fuel to match the increase in air flow. Unfortunately there is a delay in getting the fuel to flow adequately, resulting in a temporary lean condition. To combat this, the dashpot has the damper to slow its rate of opening, with the result that the air flow is delayed but the velocity across the bridge increases, drawing a bit excess fuel. This gives the squirt of fuel for the accelerator pump effect.
If the dashpot oil is too light or low, you get the lean mixture stumble or lag. If the oil is too heavy you get a rich mixture stumble. So, to combat a lean condition, use a heavier oil, and vice-versa.
I'd be very interested to hear what BMC Comps used in their comp engines ....but it hasn't seemed to be a topic worth pursuing...
If its rabbit holes you're after............
Cheers, Ian
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Wow. I had the lean/rich vs. oil thing backwards. This makes sense, actually. I began to experience the stumble about the same time I switched from 30 wt. to Marvel. Don’t recall why I switched, probably my tendency to fix things that aren’t broken. If Haynes, Vissard and SU tech docs mentioned this, I missed it.
I’ll switch back to 30 wt. today and see if my stumble disappears. Don’t need to wait for my O2 meter for that. Thanks!
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When you open the throttle, vacuum is applied to the dashpot, lifting the damper and opening the throat of the carb at the bridge. This allows more air to pass through. It also pulls the needle out of the jet to admit more fuel to match the increase in air flow. Unfortunately there is a delay in getting the fuel to flow adequately, resulting in a temporary lean condition. To combat this, the dashpot has the damper to slow its rate of opening, with the result that the air flow is delayed but the velocity across the bridge increases, drawing a bit excess fuel. This gives the squirt of fuel for the accelerator pump effect.
If the dashpot oil is too light or low, you get the lean mixture stumble or lag. If the oil is too heavy you get a rich mixture stumble. So, to combat a lean condition, use a heavier oil, and vice-versa.
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Unfortunately, my O2 meter stopped working when I upgraded to a new iPhone. There should be an app update soon. Will advise…
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Burlen (SU) lists their oil as 20W (link below).
//burlen.co.uk/dashpot-oil-light.html
So that's what I carry in the boot of my British cars.
3-in-1 in the blue/white bottle is 20W and the bottles are small and convenient.
https://www.3inone.com/products/motor-oil/
To each his own.
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My experience is that if you forget the oil the engine will be a pain to start but will run OK once you get going.
20W50 is "normal" Mini engine oil so it makes sense to use .. its probably readily available.. All you need is a stable and reasonable viscosity.
I would suggest not trying to second guess the designers....
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When you have a tuned Mini Rosebud it is going to take a little trial an error to find what works best.
SU service department used Duckhams 20w50 fwiw.
If in doubt, flat out. Colin Mc Rae MBE 1968-2007.
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number of problems I had to chase. Once I changed plugs, point plate, points, condenser, cap and wires the steady
state flutter was gone. When bliping the throttle there was a slight hesitation. Having cleaned the piston and bells
and added a couple flats richness hesitation remained, I removed the springs and changed to springs the same
length and number of coils with .002 greater wire cross section. I had already topped the carb oil with 3&1 oil. Issue
was gone and off it went. Steve (CTR)
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What does the AFR gauge tell you as you blip - does it go rich or lean ?
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